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  1. Michi

    banlist discussion

    I know that, but the only league restrictions I can find are the ban list and the part of the rules that says they prefer we don't hack our pokemon. Are there any other league restrictions? Like OHKO moves, SkarmBliss, Hax, any of that stuff?
  2. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Espeon's idea seems great, as long as Kratos wants to do it. I'd be willing to help if we had some battles or tournaments, if you need other members to help. :P On another note, what other things are banned, since I can't seem to figure out or find any info? Like which clauses does this league...
  3. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Really I don't know how to get them at the same time, I'm just saying that it woud take an awful huge hit to KO Infernape. If someone attacks without +3, then any Infernape will survive 2 Bullet Punches and will survive even a third, if it's HP is boosted enough. I think a 3HKO or 4HKO is pretty...
  4. Michi

    banlist discussion

    You can fix Scizor with Infernape in seconds. The weakest Infernape resists even a +3, Choice Band and Technician boosted, max Attack Bullet Punch, and then it OHKO's with any Fire Attack.
  5. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Ahh, I see. Scarfed. I need to pay attention a bit more. >_> Oddly, though I'm the one who brought up 'Chomp in the first place, I was planning a competitive team just minutes ago with no 'Chomp, but instead a Flygon. Granted Salamence was on the team, but still.
  6. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Well if it can switch into Outrage, Stone Edge, any Ice attacks Garchomp may have, and probably many more, and it can 1HKO it even with Yache Berry, I believe it can be called a counter, correct? Let's see - Most Garchomps have no EV investment in Special Defense, making the stat 206 at the...
  7. Michi

    banlist discussion

    As an addition to the point of Glaceon being able to switch i and OHKO, if said Glaceon had a maxed out Sp. Attack then Ice beam would OHKO even the most defensive non-Yache Garchomps.
  8. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Which makes me really want to use Glaceon, if Garchomp returns. :P
  9. Michi

    banlist discussion

    A Starmie with max Sp. Attack easily 2HKO's a max Sp. Defense Garchomp, and 3HKO's one with a Yache Berry. That said, I haven't ever seen a Garchomp with a max Sp. Defense stat. A Garchomp with average Sp. Defense is easily OHKO'd by a Starmie's Ice Beam, especially if IV's and EV's in Sp...
  10. Michi

    banlist discussion

    I find that Dusknoir can defeat Scizor if used correctly, thanks to Fire Punch, and Infernape (common on many teams, though I hate it) eliminates Scizor with Flare Blitz or Fire Punch. Scizor is a powerful threat, though, but I don't think it will be a massive problem if YacheChomp is cleared...
  11. Michi

    banlist discussion

    That's true - I mostly run into problems with Ice Shard if I'm up against Garchomp, Salamence, and Dragonite. I always forget that there's an Ice Punch right below it on the screen, and that the other pokemon isn't fast enough to hit first. I have, a few times, managed to finish off a Scizor...
  12. Michi

    banlist discussion

    Agreed, sreservoir - I don't know how I managed to ignore the fact that you can easily murder it if you survive a single attack, assuming you have more Ice attacks than just Ice Shard. That attack is, really, an epic fail in some cases. Weavile and some similar pokemon already outspeed most...
  13. Michi

    banlist discussion

    That's all true, sreservoir and Espeon, but many teams now are running Weavile, Gyarados, or Starmie. All three can easily take out a Garchomp - Weavile's Ice Punch is garunteed to OHKO even a max Defense Garchomp if it isn't holding a Yache Berry, assuming the Weavile holds the standard Choice...
  14. Michi

    banlist discussion

    I think Garchomp being reintroduced would be an okay idea. Now that Garchomp has been removed, Smogon wants to try to move Salamence to Ubers. But both of them are easily beaten! I don't think there was much of a reason for Garchomp's move - Ice types can counter it easily, and Dragons fare well...
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